More NSA revelations are yet to come, says author
Only a fraction of the NSA's spying activities has been
revealed to the public, claims German journalist Holger Stark in his new book.
In an interview, he tells DW more about how the "surveillance matrix"
functions.
DW: You were one of the first people with access to the
Snowden documents, some of which were classified as strictly confidential. What
shocked you the most when reading them?
Holger Stark: I was particularly fascinated by how early
the NSA categorized the Internet as a medium for full-scale monitoring. There
was a passage in the documents of former NSA chief Kenneth Minihan from the
summer of 1996 where he confidentially tells his colleagues that the Internet
is the key medium of the future, comparable to the invention of the atom bomb in
the 20th century. Minihan says that whoever controls the Internet has the power
in the 21st century. And he adds that all efforts need to serve the goal of
asserting America's intelligence dominance.
You have already published six feature pieces on the NSA
scandal. Now you have written the book "The NSA Complex" with your
colleague Marcel Rosenbach. Are we slowly starting to get the full picture of
organized mass surveillance?
The NSA systematically taps fiber optic cables - the main
arteries of Internet traffic conveying the largest streams of data. It engages
some American companies as collaborators and cooperates with partner
intelligence agencies abroad, including Germany's Federal Intelligence Service
[also known by its German acronym, BND]. This system enables control of nearly
the whole stream of relevant data and then processing it with sophisticated
intelligence analysis programs to see what is important.
I think we have grasped this principle, but the material
is so extensive that we will still be seeing interesting and partly surprising
and shocking reports about it over many months.
As a partner in this systematic surveillance, does
Germany have a small advantage?
Germany is a victim on the one hand and a co-perpetrator
on the other. In various areas, the German government is one of the NSA's
targets. The most spectacular of these was definitely the bugging of the German
chancellor's cell phone, but the files also contain records of other Germans
being monitored. And the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) - the
special US court for these matters - issued a verdict that monitoring Germany
is legitimate.
At the same time, as a member of a joint secret-service
operation, Germany is one of the NSA's partners. The Federal Intelligence
Service conducts various activities together with the NSA related to the fiber
optic cables carrying Internet data. The Federal Intelligence Service organizes
access and then shares the data with the NSA.
In the book you demonstrate that spying by surveillance
agencies also extends to medium-size businesses in Germany.
The NSA and Britain's Government Communications
Headquarters (GCHQ) consider very carefully which companies could be of
interest to them. This includes technology firms that are leaders in their
respective fields; that possess unique technological expertise. And they look
to see which businesses offer something really special.
For example, there are numerous German companies that
offer Internet per satellite in places such as outlying parts of Africa. These
companies are interesting because they are entering regions that are of special
interest to the NSA. In cases like this, the NSA targets company employees such
as technicians and engineers. They hack into computers and routers and attempt
to intercept the joining point between the satellites and normal Internet
cables.
Does the White House still have control over US
intelligence services?
This is one of the noteworthy insights that we gained
from reading through the documents: The NSA doesn't generally do anything that
hasn't been sanctioned by the White House. Every six months, the White House
issues a type of "surveillance matrix" - in which all countries and
topics of interest are outlined: foreign policy, armament policy, economic policy
and similar things. For each country, a very sophisticated information-sifting
process determines what the interests are and how high the priorities are. One
is very high and five is very low.
In cases like China, Iran, and North Korea, a one can be
found everywhere in this table. For Germany it's a mixture of threes and fours.
This overview is very systematically processed by the NSA. It’s not as if the
agency is just taking wild stabs in the dark without the captain’s knowledge.
In Germany, the NSA investigation committee has sprung
into action. Does it have any chance of looking behind the scenes and seeing
how the agency operates?
The job will be difficult for the investigation committee
- because it's a committee that can't investigate the NSA, since the NSA won't
share any solid information with the German parliament. This means that the
committee will have to be satisfied with access to public documents and explore
the other side to see what the German intelligence services did together with the
NSA.
That's why I assume that at least half of the committee's
investigations will deal with the Federal Intelligence Service and possibly
also with the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution [Germany’s
domestic intelligence service]. I don't expect the committee to be able to
answer all the questions.
Holger Stark is a Washington-based correspondent for the
German current affairs magazine "Der Spiegel." Together with Marcel
Rosenbach, one of the magazine's editors, he published a book titled
"Staatsfeind WikiLeaks" ("State Enemy WikiLeaks"), covering
Chelsea Manning's leakage of US classified documents. The authors' new book,
"Der NSA-Komplex" ("The NSA Complex"), is now out in
German.
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